Did Socrates commit sucide? Was he not condemned to death? A suicide method is any means by which a person chooses to end their life. Choose to... not forced to!
You make a good point. Technically he was condemned to death but realistically he chose to die. His friend had arranged for him to be smuggled out of the prison; everything was arranged but he decided it would go against his moral compass and so he chose to stay and die. Earlier in Plato's Apology in his actual trial he was asked what sentencing he suggested — he could have said exile or some alternative sentence and been granted it but instead he asked to be fed and housed by the Athenian state as fit punishment for his life of service. So while he technically didn't commit suicide he effectively did. I guess it's more truthful to say that he chose death over compromising his values. The question of whether he chose to die or was forced to is a bit murky so I'll let you decide where you come down given this context it's not a straightforward question no doubt though I could completely understand you taking the view that he was forced to die rather than choosing it.
Thank you for your reply... "forced to commit suicide..." as you have it now is a much better representation.
I wouldn't choose a lighter punishment if I'm accused of a crime that I haven't committed? My answer will be let me go free I have done nothing! and secondly, If the catholic pop is sentenced to death and remains in his cell until his death by lethal injection would anyone contemplate that he committed suicide? Did Jesus commit suicide? He could have just said I'm not the king of Jews to save himself.
Anyway, I have read articles like the one below from the suicide camp and it always makes me wonder why they go to so much pain to portray it that way?
He was a slithering Patrician, desperate to maintain his status and power. He was overthrown by superior power, intellect, and Fortitude. He died a coward and a Failure. Hail Caesar! The world is best without him.
I shit on Cato the younger. He was a coward and more so a Loser. Big effin L. The horse he picked died under him. Patrician piece of dung. I hope he is in Hades weeping yet for his lost position and power.Whether you cared for him or not, Gaius Julii was the first to promote the plebes position and true power. He was not a man of the people, but he was for the people( or at the least, for their Power) He taught us how to put the iron to "our betters". It is not forgotten. Hail Caesar!
Thanks for reading Charles. I'll add in the sources of the images in captions in future if I can do it on Substack. Out of curiosity any particular spelling and grammar errors that jump out? The spellings surprise me since it would have to get past me and Grammarly but the grammar I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on
Did Socrates commit sucide? Was he not condemned to death? A suicide method is any means by which a person chooses to end their life. Choose to... not forced to!
You make a good point. Technically he was condemned to death but realistically he chose to die. His friend had arranged for him to be smuggled out of the prison; everything was arranged but he decided it would go against his moral compass and so he chose to stay and die. Earlier in Plato's Apology in his actual trial he was asked what sentencing he suggested — he could have said exile or some alternative sentence and been granted it but instead he asked to be fed and housed by the Athenian state as fit punishment for his life of service. So while he technically didn't commit suicide he effectively did. I guess it's more truthful to say that he chose death over compromising his values. The question of whether he chose to die or was forced to is a bit murky so I'll let you decide where you come down given this context it's not a straightforward question no doubt though I could completely understand you taking the view that he was forced to die rather than choosing it.
Thank you for your reply... "forced to commit suicide..." as you have it now is a much better representation.
I wouldn't choose a lighter punishment if I'm accused of a crime that I haven't committed? My answer will be let me go free I have done nothing! and secondly, If the catholic pop is sentenced to death and remains in his cell until his death by lethal injection would anyone contemplate that he committed suicide? Did Jesus commit suicide? He could have just said I'm not the king of Jews to save himself.
Anyway, I have read articles like the one below from the suicide camp and it always makes me wonder why they go to so much pain to portray it that way?
https://www.jstor.org/stable/3749734
I loved how you portrayed Cato in his most common representations and humanly as possible that anyone can relate. Inspiring essay, very well done!
Thanks a million Rodrigo!! Glad you enjoyed it
He was a slithering Patrician, desperate to maintain his status and power. He was overthrown by superior power, intellect, and Fortitude. He died a coward and a Failure. Hail Caesar! The world is best without him.
I shit on Cato the younger. He was a coward and more so a Loser. Big effin L. The horse he picked died under him. Patrician piece of dung. I hope he is in Hades weeping yet for his lost position and power.Whether you cared for him or not, Gaius Julii was the first to promote the plebes position and true power. He was not a man of the people, but he was for the people( or at the least, for their Power) He taught us how to put the iron to "our betters". It is not forgotten. Hail Caesar!
Interesting, but there are a couple of spelling and grammar errors. It would also be helpful if you identified the images used.
Thanks for reading Charles. I'll add in the sources of the images in captions in future if I can do it on Substack. Out of curiosity any particular spelling and grammar errors that jump out? The spellings surprise me since it would have to get past me and Grammarly but the grammar I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on